tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37589721331585843.post507628518659798952..comments2024-03-26T11:33:59.219-06:00Comments on Religion in American History: We Don't Have to Call it "Holy War": Historicizing Michelle BachmannPaul Harveyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13881964303772343114noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37589721331585843.post-37290838427539411512011-07-08T12:46:57.446-06:002011-07-08T12:46:57.446-06:00Thank you. I certainly did not mean to leave out M...Thank you. I certainly did not mean to leave out Marsden!! Unfortunately, he's often the only one anyone cites.Janine Giordano Drakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15743145462085629472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37589721331585843.post-69725965194701542502011-07-02T07:10:55.097-06:002011-07-02T07:10:55.097-06:00The blog posting makes a good point in saying that...The blog posting makes a good point in saying that there's little effort in the RS story to understand Bachman's faith and politics in historical context. But understanding that context is not incompatible with the three central points of the RS article: that Bachman is a little bit nuts, that she's something of a charlatan who believes her own nonsense, and that resentment is a significant component in both her politics and that those who support her. Those three points have been made in more subtle form by historians of fundamentalism and evangelicalism, including those with evangelical backgrounds. Marsden's classic 1980 volume on fundamentalism, for example, compares them to immigrants feeling unhomed in their own country to explain their militancy and anger.Will Katerbergnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37589721331585843.post-15411467757845657592011-06-27T23:06:41.334-06:002011-06-27T23:06:41.334-06:00just curious..what is "the war that is actual...just curious..what is "the war that is actually being waged"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37589721331585843.post-44331983131926101412011-06-27T18:06:14.041-06:002011-06-27T18:06:14.041-06:00Oh, I never said that Bachmann and Bryan had platf...Oh, I never said that Bachmann and Bryan had platforms of moral equivalency! I just said they both are trying to reform major party platforms with third parties. Political machines in the 1890s also represented pretty "bald attempt(s) by the rich to manipulate the poor,"--but they, too, weren't going anywhere, so they had to be reformed by the presence of other parties. So, in my opinion, there's not so much to respect about previous eras of politics any more than our own. One proven way to command attention, then and now, is to play the "old time religion" card.Janine Giordano Drakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15743145462085629472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37589721331585843.post-79225856851160772112011-06-26T23:00:09.814-06:002011-06-26T23:00:09.814-06:00Except there is no movement behind the Tea Party. ...Except there is no movement behind the Tea Party. It is a bald attempt by the rich to manipulate the poor. It isn't a thing, it is a mirage. Sometimes I think it would be better to think of the Tea Party movement as an elaborate fraud similar to the housing bubble/derivatives fraud of the last decade.<br /><br />While you may have identified some kind of formal similarity between WJB and Bachmann, it doesn't mean anything without a discussion of the content of their ideas.<br /><br />C'mon, Religion in American History blog. Where's your moral compass?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37589721331585843.post-72856784147332628722011-06-24T11:41:19.872-06:002011-06-24T11:41:19.872-06:00Barry Hankins' book Jesus and Gin comes to min...Barry Hankins' book Jesus and Gin comes to mind. And don't forget Sutton's study of Sister Aimee.Philnoreply@blogger.com